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Rishi Sunak cancels meeting with Greek PM amid Parthenon marbles row

Good morning. Rishi Sunak does not have all the qualities of a great human being but, among other virtues, he is generally calm and polite, and that makes his row with the Greek PM about the Parthenon marbles even harder to comprehend than it otherwise would be.

The official explanation is that Sunak cancelled his meeting with Kyriakos Mitsotakis because Mitsotakis went back on a promise not to raise the issue of the sculptures during his three-day visit to the UK. But did anyone in No 10 seriously think that Mitsotakis would be able to get through media interviews without being asked about the subject?

And so if the pretext for cancelling the meeting was flaky, was this all just some political ruse to present Sunak in a positive light ahead of the election. (One of the problems with political commentary at this stage of the political cycle is that it is assumed that everything is motivated by calculations about electoral positioning. Roughly 80% of the time that’s true, but sometimes it isn’t.)

Some of the briefing from the Tory side backs up this analysis. Keir Starmer met Mitsotakis yesterday and Labour is not opposed to the marbles going back to Greece on loan, and in her London Playbook briefing Rosa Prince quotes a Conservative source as saying:

Starmer sold out to secure a meeting. It’s naive on his part and shows how little regard he has for British taxpayers who have looked after these for generations. Starmer is up to his old tricks of just telling the person in front of him what they want to hear.

Given that polling suggests two-thirds of Britons would support the sculptures going back to Greece as part of a deal that would see Greek artefacts being loaned to British museums in exchange, it is hard to see Sunak’s move as a great vote-winner. But James Johnson, a pollster who used to work in No 10 for Theresa May, says it is not obviously a mistake. He posted this on X last night.

oh incredibly niche. i don’t think it moves the dial at all. but i don’t think it’s a political error. PM needs as many opportunities as possible to try and look strong/patriotic vis-a-vis Starmer

— James Johnson (@jamesjohnson252) November 27, 2023

Perhaps the worst take on this whole affair came this morning from Mark Harper, the transport secretary. In an interview on Sky News this morning, he claimed that Sunak’s decision to cancel the meeting was not a snub. Asked if it was a snub, he replied:

The prime minister wasn’t able to meet the Greek prime minister. He was offered a meeting with the deputy prime minister, which proved not to be possible for him to take up. So, I don’t think I’d characterise it the way you have.

Discussions continue between our governments about important matters.

Here is Helena Smith’s story about the row.

Here is the agenda for the day.

9.30am: Rishi Sunak chairs cabinet.

10am: Michael Gove, the levelling up secretary and Cabinet Office minister during the pandemic, gives evidence to the Covid inquiry.

Morning: David Cameron, the new foreign secretary, attends a meeting of Nato foreign ministers in Brussels.

10.15am: Richard Hughes, chair of the Office for Budget Responsibility, and colleagues give evidence to the Commons Treasury committee about the autumn statement.

11.30am: Downing Street holds a lobby briefing.

After 12.30pm: MPs debate the second reading of the criminal justice bill.

Afternoon: Prof Dame Jenny Harries, the chief executive of the UK Health Security Agency, gives evidence to the Covid inquiry.

If you want to contact me, do try the “send us a message” feature. You’ll see it just below the byline – on the left of the screen, if you are reading on a laptop or a desktop. This is for people who want to message me directly. I find it very useful when people message to point out errors (even typos – no mistake is too small to correct). Often I find your questions very interesting, too. I can’t promise to reply to them all, but I will try to reply to as many as I can, either in the comments below the line; privately (if you leave an email address and that seems more appropriate); or in the main blog, if I think it is a topic of wide interest.

Key events

Gove delivers apology to Covid victims and their families for ‘mistakes made by government’

Gove breaks away from the line of questioning to issue an apology.

I want to take this opportunity, if I may, to apologise to the victims who endured so much pain, the families who’ve endured so much loss, as a result of the mistakes that were made by government in response to the pandemic.

And as a minister, responsible for the Cabinet Office, and who was also close to many of the decisions that were made, I must take my share of responsibility for that.

Politicians are human beings, we’re fallible, we make mistakes and we make errors. And I’m sure that the inquiry will have an opportunity to look in detail at many of the errors I and others made.

But he also says he and his colleagues were trying to take the best decisions “in circumstances where every decision was difficult and every course was bad”.

Gove says Cabinet Office had flawed structure even before Covid started

Keith says the inquiry has heard from several witnesses who have described the Cabinet Office as dysfunctional during Covid.

Q: How did that happen?

Gove says the structure of the Cabinet Office was flawed. Normally a cabinet minister is responsible for what their department does. But that is not the case at the Cabinet Office, he says. Significant parts answer either to the cabinet secretary or to the PM, and not to the lead departmental minister, he says.

Q: So to whom should the inquiry look for accountability as to the state the Cabinet Office was in?

Gove says for many years the Cabinet Office has operated in a way which is “not as effective as it should be”, both in relation to delivering normal government services and and to responding to emergencies.

He says the Cabinet Office ceded too much responsibility to lead government departments, and did not take enough responsibility at the centre.

He also says past prime ministers have given the Cabinet Office responsibility for things that did not fit elsewhere, like drugs policy. He says it became a “Mary Poppins bag” into which PMs will shove things that need to be dealt with by the government’s nanny.

He says, when he became responsible for the Cabinet Office in early 2020, he called for changes to the way it operated.

He says he is not blaming the civil servants, some of whom were among the best. The problem was that it had been given too much to do, and that there was no strategic thinking about how the centre of government should be reconfigured.

Michael Gove gives evidence to Covid inquiry

Michael Gove, the levelling up secretary and former Cabinet Office minister, has just started giving evidence to the Covid inquiry.

He is being questioned by Hugo Keith KC, lead counsel for the inquiry.

The feed is here:

Covid inquiry: Michael Gove and former medical officer Jenny Harries make comments – watch live

The FT’s George Parker says some Tories think Rishi Sunak cancelled his meeting with Kyriakos Mitsotakis because Mitsotakis met Keir Starmer first.

There’s another slant. A senior Tory tells me Sunak is probably “pissed off” because Mitsotakis met Starmer before him (like Obama meeting Cameron in 2009 to PM Gordon Brown’s fury)

— George Parker (@GeorgeWParker) November 27, 2023

Alex Norris, the shadow policing minsiter, told Sky News this mornng, that, if this was the reason for Sunak’s snub, that was extraordinary. he said:

I thought the logic that we heard overnight that the prime minister didn’t want to discuss that topic, I thought that was pretty thin.

If it’s about that, then I’d be very surprised indeed.

Ultimately, Greece is a huge, important strategic ally of ours on the issue of migration, which of course Rishi Sunak talks about every day. Similarly on the economy, cultural issues, with lots of Greek people who live in this country and vice versa.

So, of course he should be meeting with the prime minister when he’s in this country. I’m very, very surprised that he hasn’t.

Here is Stephen Bush from the FT on the Parthenon marbles row.

This whole argument is daft. No, it is not a gift to Labour that Rishi Sunak cancelled a meeting with the Greek PM. No, Labour has not fallen into a trap by criticising him either. Political debates by and for people who aren’t hit by rising interest rates or NHS waiting times.

This whole argument is daft. No, it is not a gift to Labour that Rishi Sunak cancelled a meeting with the Greek PM. No, Labour has not fallen into a trap by criticising him either. Political debates by and for people who aren’t hit by rising interest rates or NHS waiting times. https://t.co/K4rEOodJKO

— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) November 27, 2023

According to a report by Steven Swinford and Matt Dathan in the Times, Rishi Sunak has been told that, if he includes an option to disregard the European convention on human rights in the new legislation intended to ensure deportations to Rwanda can go ahead, that will be counterproductive – because it will delay the point at which flights might start. Swinford and Dathan say:

The prime minister held talks on Saturday with James Cleverly, the home secretary; Alex Chalk, the justice secretary; and Victoria Prentis, the attorney general, about the plans for emergency legislation.

Sunak is considering hardline plans to include a “notwithstanding” clause in the legislation to direct British courts to ignore the European convention on human rights (ECHR). However, legal advice drawn up for the meeting warned that this approach risked backfiring because it could lead to further challenges on the basis that Britain is breaching its ECHR obligations …

Three senior government sources told the Times that No 10 is backtracking on opting out of the ECHR. One said: “Everyone wants whatever is going to work and that doesn’t seem to be the full-fat version. We’d be picking a fight when it’s not actually practically useful and we really just want what’s going to get planes off the ground the quickest.”

Michael Gove arriving at the Covid inquiry this morning.
Michael Gove arriving at the Covid inquiry this morning. Photograph: Leon Neal/Getty Images

Greek leader declines meeting with UK deputy PM after Sunak’s snub

Kyriakos Mitsotakis, the Greek PM, declined a meeting with the UK deputy prime minster, Oliver Dowden, after it was offered in place of one with Rishi Sunak, Ben Quinn reports.

Here is some more polling on the Parthenon marbles from two years ago.

A section of the Parthenon Marbles in the British Museum.
A section of the Parthenon Marbles in the British Museum. Photograph: Matthew Fearn/PA

Rishi Sunak cancels meeting with Greek PM amid Parthenon marbles row

Good morning. Rishi Sunak does not have all the qualities of a great human being but, among other virtues, he is generally calm and polite, and that makes his row with the Greek PM about the Parthenon marbles even harder to comprehend than it otherwise would be.

The official explanation is that Sunak cancelled his meeting with Kyriakos Mitsotakis because Mitsotakis went back on a promise not to raise the issue of the sculptures during his three-day visit to the UK. But did anyone in No 10 seriously think that Mitsotakis would be able to get through media interviews without being asked about the subject?

And so if the pretext for cancelling the meeting was flaky, was this all just some political ruse to present Sunak in a positive light ahead of the election. (One of the problems with political commentary at this stage of the political cycle is that it is assumed that everything is motivated by calculations about electoral positioning. Roughly 80% of the time that’s true, but sometimes it isn’t.)

Some of the briefing from the Tory side backs up this analysis. Keir Starmer met Mitsotakis yesterday and Labour is not opposed to the marbles going back to Greece on loan, and in her London Playbook briefing Rosa Prince quotes a Conservative source as saying:

Starmer sold out to secure a meeting. It’s naive on his part and shows how little regard he has for British taxpayers who have looked after these for generations. Starmer is up to his old tricks of just telling the person in front of him what they want to hear.

Given that polling suggests two-thirds of Britons would support the sculptures going back to Greece as part of a deal that would see Greek artefacts being loaned to British museums in exchange, it is hard to see Sunak’s move as a great vote-winner. But James Johnson, a pollster who used to work in No 10 for Theresa May, says it is not obviously a mistake. He posted this on X last night.

oh incredibly niche. i don’t think it moves the dial at all. but i don’t think it’s a political error. PM needs as many opportunities as possible to try and look strong/patriotic vis-a-vis Starmer

— James Johnson (@jamesjohnson252) November 27, 2023

Perhaps the worst take on this whole affair came this morning from Mark Harper, the transport secretary. In an interview on Sky News this morning, he claimed that Sunak’s decision to cancel the meeting was not a snub. Asked if it was a snub, he replied:

The prime minister wasn’t able to meet the Greek prime minister. He was offered a meeting with the deputy prime minister, which proved not to be possible for him to take up. So, I don’t think I’d characterise it the way you have.

Discussions continue between our governments about important matters.

Here is Helena Smith’s story about the row.

Here is the agenda for the day.

9.30am: Rishi Sunak chairs cabinet.

10am: Michael Gove, the levelling up secretary and Cabinet Office minister during the pandemic, gives evidence to the Covid inquiry.

Morning: David Cameron, the new foreign secretary, attends a meeting of Nato foreign ministers in Brussels.

10.15am: Richard Hughes, chair of the Office for Budget Responsibility, and colleagues give evidence to the Commons Treasury committee about the autumn statement.

11.30am: Downing Street holds a lobby briefing.

After 12.30pm: MPs debate the second reading of the criminal justice bill.

Afternoon: Prof Dame Jenny Harries, the chief executive of the UK Health Security Agency, gives evidence to the Covid inquiry.

If you want to contact me, do try the “send us a message” feature. You’ll see it just below the byline – on the left of the screen, if you are reading on a laptop or a desktop. This is for people who want to message me directly. I find it very useful when people message to point out errors (even typos – no mistake is too small to correct). Often I find your questions very interesting, too. I can’t promise to reply to them all, but I will try to reply to as many as I can, either in the comments below the line; privately (if you leave an email address and that seems more appropriate); or in the main blog, if I think it is a topic of wide interest.

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